Episode 187 – The One Where We Fall Down Incorrectly Named Rabbit Holes

In This Week’s Show, episode 187, we finally get Shea to move out of his parents’ house and run for Senate through the generous use of homeopathic flying cake and a fat, smelly, rage-stick.

In This Week’s Show, episode 187, we finally get Shea to move out of his parents’ house and run for Senate through the generous use of homeopathic flying cake and a fat, smelly, rage-stick.

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Yumna (the Korean- Buddhist god of the underworld) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if a nickname is what people call you for short, then your full name would be your Nicholas name.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that the mascot of Vidalia, GA (the onion capital of the world and sorta my hometown) is an onion in overalls named Yumion? I can also fully believe he is the god of some religion’s underworld.

I’m Steve and I’m back, and before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

You’re In The Jungle Baby! – Evil twin Brewing, Brooklyn, NY

From Andi & Allan

ABV: 12%

Style: Imperial Stout

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  • Jenn: 9
  • Shea: 4
  • Steve: 6

This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion


Joshua (The computer and Falken’s son in War Games (1983) – really old reference I know. S)

Or Brolin? I think I already did Joshua the Dog…

Thanks to last week’s patron The Foz for clarifying that his patron name encompasses both The Fonz and Fozzie Bear. Also it’s a play on his name. So thanks for allowing us to teach Aaron all kinds of fun things.


Somehow Gourmet Grubb and EntoMilk emailed us. Apparently, cockroach milk and EntoMilk milk aren’t the same thing. Cockroach milk, as portrayed in the media and our show, is a commercially inviable academic interest as it’s expensive, time consuming, and not scalable. Also, the milk-crystals aren’t… milk-y. EntoMilk’s clarification is that they don’t use this process, but instead, blend up Black Soldier Fly Larvae… which is somehow better. All that said, they’re both nasty so whatever. In EntoMilk’s defense, they made the “fly in my milk” joke in their own email, way ahead of ourselves. So… yeah…


Beer, brains on beer, and laughs.

By Pixie the Apostle

One of my favourite podcasts,each week the 4 Wrath crew gives me laughs while covering serious topics,while enjoying a beer. I’ve been listening for all the ever,and will continue to do so.

Happy Birthday to friend-of-the-show Brendon! You’re old now, good luck with that.

Hot Shots!

Steve – I’m personally sensitive to smell. Enough so that when we have student staff working at our offices who tend to wear cologne, I will often require that they don’t wear it to work. I’m not hardcore about it, I just fucking hate that stinky cloud that follows some people around. That is nothing like what passengers on a Dutch Transavia Airlines flight had to deal with though. A few days ago, a Dutch paper reported that a flight from Amsterdam to a Spanish island had to be diverted because passengers were fainting and puking due to a stench in the aircraft. Was it an item in a carry-on bag or something wrong with the plane? Hell no. It was one of the passengers. This person was so disgusting and stinky that people were literally gagging and vomiting. One passenger said it smelled like he hadn’t washed in weeks. Another said it smelled worse than “that of a corpse that had been decomposing for a month.” The crew put the gross person in the lavatory and the plane landed early in Faro, Portugal to get him off, but it was still so nasty in there that food and drink service was suspended when they took off for the scheduled destination.


Aaron – Citing uncited research in the areas of feet and fat, the Deccan Chronicle wants us all to know the secret to losing weight is as simple as taking off your shoes as you enter your house! According to the paragraph-long study, removing your shoes will help reduce the quantity of “obesogens” you might track inside. In a follow up para-study-o-graph we learn that wood flooring is also preferable, lest fat causing chemicals build up in your shag carpet… thereby preventing you from shagging… or even seeing it…


Steve – Here’s one for Shea. Docho Eshete, a Protestant pastor, was performing a baptism in Lake Abaya in the Tabya district of Ethiopia. After finishing the first of the dupe-dunkings, and moving on the second, a crocodile leapt from the water and attacked him. Onlookers used fishing nets to prevent the croc from taking his meal into the lake, but it did escape to provide its own brand of religious criticism in the future. Eshete was bitten on the legs, back, and hands and later died from the injuries.— Just for the record. Even though this came from the BBC, I can’t find any other sources from elsewhere (and where are the photos?), so it’s likely bullshit. Funny though.


Aaron – Fuck you internet, what have you ever done for Egypt or Papua New Guinea anyway?

In a move torn from China’s Great Firewall playbook, Egypt’s Grand Muffti McMuffin found a now six-year-old, 15-minute comedy sketch that portrays Muhammad as a laughably ignorant would-be messiah from the middle ages, and feeling like the 50 or so dead from rioting wasn’t enough, they’re blocking YouTube for a month. Meanwhile, Papua New Guinea must have called “heads” as it is banning Facebook for a month, not because of it’s offensively ignorant content but in an effort to route out fake accounts.


Steve – Another for Shea. Heavenly Father provides from above, but only if you got to http://patreon.com/w4w. Two cars in Kelowna, BC were struck with was appears to be poo, falling from the sky. First on May 9, Susan Allen and her son were sitting at an intersection when they were hit with a feces flood falling from above. She said, “It stunk, it was gross, it felt dirty and right away you could smell poop,” continuing “It was falling from the sky… you could feel the drops hitting you.” Allen ended up with conjunctivitis in both eyes as well as an eye burn from the blue chemical that’s in the waste. Three days later it happened again, though this time to a car that was parked and unoccupied. Transport Canada is currently investigating and has it nailed down to three planes which were passing over at the times of the incidents.

Aaron – it’s only godly if it’s crackers, or, don’t cry for my cake Argentina…

Dry, flavorless, unleavened crackers are the preferred symbol of the dried out husk of a savior overseeing the souls of Argentinians and Culture Minister of Buenos Aires, Enrique Avogadro, would do well to fucking remember that! Presented with a massive cake shaped like Jesus, six pack and hand holes included (no mention was made of what dipping sauce one might get with stigmata holes, but I’m guessing strawberry), Enrique gladly accepted an elbow and a plastic fork… because art. Unfortunately, the now 10’s of thousands of Argentinians who have signed a petition for his resignation are inconsolable… presumably because he didn’t let them pray to their cake, and eat it too.


Aaron – Apple’s recent WWDC event saw a number of exciting new features for iOS 12 and MacOS 10.14. Most impressive though is the new Apple Podcasts App. While the new version of the App still doesn’t support rich media, it will feature playback sync, chapter navigation, and the cure for Ebola, SARS, Swine flu, malaria, typhoid, and cholera. So, a pretty solid update really. Thanks to soon-to-be suspended Dr. William Edwin Grey 3rd’s amazing new water-free, homeopathic, sound files you can cure any number of ailments for only $5 a sound file! His website, assholedrislying.com features some 23 curative recordings ranging from 5 to 100$, that will cure, apparently, fucking everything in about 3 hours of playback. For their part, Robert Stewart, founder of the New York School of Homeopathy told the Times that he’s “on his own on this” because this is even too nuts for Big Nutter! http://bit.ly/2JC18J2

This Week’s Stories

Shea’s Greatest Fear!

Available now at http://patreon.com/w4w

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After a 5 month battle, 30-year-old Michael Rotondo will have to move out of his family home. Who was this battle with you ask? His parents and owners of the home, Christina, and Mark Rotondo. According to the New York Post, Michael Rotondo has lived with his parents at their place in Camillus, New York, for the past eight years. They’ve apparently been trying to get him to move out for months, but the man-child just won’t go. Now, they have sued their own son to force him to spread his large, adult wings, and find his own place to live.

Mark and Christina Rotondo have sent him five written notices letting him know he’s been evicted from their house. And according to Syracuse.com, he’s just been ignoring them.

Finally taking him to court, Rotondo refused to directly speak to his parents and argued with Judge Greenwood for a half an hour that he was entitled to an additional six months before eviction, citing a legal case he found on the internet that appeared to back his claim. Greenwood reportedly praised Rotondo’s legal argument but sided with his parents and ordered him to move out, calling his demand for six more months “outrageous.”

Rotondo fired back, calling the judge’s order “outrageous.”

“I’m not bothering them by living here,” Rotondo said in an interview with “Good Morning America” on last week. “It’s little to no cost to them, and considering how much they’ve harassed me, I think it’s the least that they should be required to do, which is just let me hang here a bit longer and use their hot water and electricity.”

Michael does not have a great track record of adulting, his last job was as an assistant ski coach back in 2017 working 15 hours a week. He did have delusions of grandeur after getting fired from Best Buy and sued them for over $300,000. He must have moved out for a bit because he managed to have a child, who he lost custody of this past year after owing over $2,500 in child support and only having to pay $56 a week…

Interview with Brooke Baldwin

Why the actual fuck is this guy on Good Morning America!?

Happily this week Mr. and Mrs. Rotondo can finally rest alone. June 1st around 9:30 a.m., just 2 1/2 hours before a court-ordered eviction deadline, Michael Rotondo left his parents’ house. Mind you, not before having to call to cops because his father wouldn’t let him back into the house to get what? Legos Apparently Michael is off to stay at an Airbnb with a second cousin he just met because of InfoWars… Oh, and he got the money to do this from Alex Jones, three grand to be exact.

Jenn’s Story: The Glorious Update of Episode 156 – (The One Where We Don’t Know Who Not to Vote For, Nov 3rd, 2017)

Rarely have I enjoyed peeling away the onion-like layers of insanity in a story like I have in the tale of James and Sarah Dean, the Montana couple who announced their candidacy for a Montana Senate seat (on opposite tickets).

You remember them, right? Turns out they were only maybe married and had a long, changing list of other names, online identities and businesses/ministry work. Well, sadly, their political aspirations appear to have crumbled.

June 5th, the day of recording, is Montana’s primary election. So, of course, I had to check in on our favorite swinging, swindling duo. Turns out, they have dropped out of the race. #SadFace, Of course, I was curious as to the real story since apparently nothing with these two can be anything be ridiculous.

AND! Yep, that was true. According to the Havre Daily, things have continued to be dramatic as only the lives of two people who aren’t exactly sure who are they are can be.


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Before I get into the update, here are a few fun tidbits from last November 17th’s Montana ‘Pachyderm Meeting’ GET IT??!!

“Montana Republican Senate candidate James Dean defended the lack of specifics he has given about his policy proposals and personal life at a meeting of the Pachyderm Club Friday and said, if elected, it will be with the support of God and not the voters.

It will be the grace of God that gets me elected and not by anything else, it is not even going to be by all you all liking me or voting for me. It is going to be by the grace of God alone that I am going to get into the U.S. Senate, that is it.

Dean made the statement after he was asked by Richard Pierson how he planned to raise the money needed to run a campaign when he is not being transparent. 

Dean said he was being transparent and would raise money through prayer.”

Dean said.

He added that while other candidates offer a list of positions on issues, he actually has a solution. To solve the problems, Dean said, he wants to introduce a complex new system based on software to connect people.

“I want to introduce a system where every problem can be solved at a very, very rapid rate,”

He said his system would allow people who want to start a business to use an app that will send out messages simultaneously and provide entrepreneurs with the startup capital, expertise, manpower and other resources. Dean said his new system will boost the economy by 50 to 100 percent annually, which he said is needed to avert a financial crisis and pay down the national debt.

To make his plan work, Dean said, he will have to work with people in the Federal Reserve to reform the nation’s banking system.

“If I am sent to the Senate by you guys, what I am going to be doing is going deep into the engine of how our systems work and in secret and in quietness, work with experts to get our system fixed from the inside,”

Dean said.

He said that he will not introduce a bill or work with congressional leaders to get his reforms, saying that as things relate to banking, the Republican party and Tester have already been paid off.

“I can do it without Congress cooperating,” he said.

Finally, Dean said that he wants to go to Washington, D.C., to fight “swamp creatures” and the biggest swamp creature is the U.S. Federal Reserve.

“It sounds to me like you want to run the government,” Larson said.

“Big time, absolutely,” Dean said. “That is why anybody runs for office because they want to run the government that is the whole point.”

So back to the follow-up, what have these two crazy kids been up to since last Fall? For starters, it appears they have left town amidst a variety of domestic accusations and issues. In February he (James? Daniel? William?) announced they would be leaving town and “he could not reveal where they would relocate to ensure a safe location for his children of whom he is trying to gain custody.” The children are from a previous marriage to Rachel Dean, who he divorced in 2009. Oh, also Rachel had a trial date of March 5 set to meet Mr. Dean to hold him in contempt for failing to make child support payments in November and December.

So as he and (possibly?) new wife (possibly?) named Sarah were in the midst of fleeing Havre for parts unknown, he promised they would both continue their Senate campaigns. “”We have a tremendous amount of value to add. I have a tremendous amount of work and skill to provide to the American people and I have to communicate that, so we can help millions of people have better lives.”

Side note about Sarah: Priscilla Dawn Baer turns out to ‘apparently’ be her given name

Only three days after the previous story about the move, etc appeared in the Havre Daily an additional story was published. Apparently, as the family was on their way out of town (to parts unknown) attempted to pull his students, illegally, out of school to take with him. Prompting a full school lockdown. A letter to parents at the St. Jude Thaddeus School was posted on the school’s Facebook page and said the school “went into a lockdown and decided to dismiss early due to a custody issue”. Havre Police Chief Gabe Matosich confirmed that officers responded to a call from the school Friday and escorted William James Dean off the premises.

Ok…so. It turns out that he was attempting to take his children bc he announced in an interview the day before that he believed his minor daughter had been raped while under the care of her mother. (He actually only said a ‘minor relative’ but further reports seem to indicate it was his daughter. But who the fuck actually knows??) From the Havre Daily:

“He said the reason he and Sarah Dean moved to Havre in August was to “figure out what was going on and search for answers” about concerns they had with where he children. …

Holly Frederickson, acting justice of the peace in the case, denied the request, saying testimony by a Havre police officer who interviewed the girl “yielded no allegations against the (person accused)” and that testimony by two Child and Protective Services employees showed the minor children were in a safe situation in the household.”

The following month, March of this year, the only additional info I could locate appeared in another Havre Daily article with this lead sentence: “A pair of controversial political candidates have generally disappeared, both from the local view and from the race for Montana’s U.S. Senate seat.”

Apparently, they missed the deadline to file with the Montana Secretary of State so their senate dreams never actually made it off the ground. And I guess they are on the run? Stay tuned.

Next Week’s Beer

Saison d’Brett – Funkworks, Ft. Collins, CO

From: Tim, Keith, and Anna

ABV: 7%

Style: Fruit Saison

Faith In Humanity Restored

There’s a reason he’s an Avenger!

Dr. Steven Holmes, super sleuth and sorcerer supreme, made headlines this week as he was heading home to the Baker Street Sanctum Sanctorum when his Uber driver passed by an alley where four muggers were attacking a Deliveroo cyclist and attempting to steal his bicycle. According to witnesses, Cumberbatch screamed at the attackers and then dragged them off the victim.

Uber driver Manuel Dias, 53, told The Sun, “I was taking Benedict and his wife to a club — but I didn’t know it was him at first.”

“Then it all got a bit surreal. Here was Sherlock Holmes fighting off four attackers just around the corner from Baker Street,” Dias continued. “I had hold of one lad and Benedict another. He seemed to know exactly what he was doing. He was very brave. He did most of it, to be honest. They tried to hit him, but he defended himself and pushed them away. He wasn’t injured. Then I think they also recognized it was Benedict and ran away.”

Cumberbatch asked how the cyclist was. When he said, ” ‘I’m OK,’ Benedict just hugged him.”

“The cyclist was lucky; Benedict’s a superhero,” Dias said. “Benedict was courageous, brave and selfless. If he hadn’t stepped in, the cyclist could have been seriously injured.”

No arrests have been made yet, but I’m sure Wang & Watson are on the case. Also, I would watch the hell out of a Wang & Watson show.

Sherlock’ Star Benedict Cumberbatch Saves Cyclist From Muggers – http://bit.ly/2Jy63e9

Bonus Cat Video

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