Episode 229 – The One Where Steve Fights A Yeti With His Veggie-Type — It’s Super Effective!

In This Week’s Show, episode 229, we get our dogs stoned so they can ride angry whales into battle with time traveling Iraqi dinosaurs!

In This Week’s Show, episode 229, we get our dogs stoned so they can ride angry whales into battle with time traveling Iraqi dinosaurs!

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ori (or-I), the god-like jerks who founded Origin, haven’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that a blue whale is so large that if it were to be laid on a basketball court the game would be canceled.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

No reviews, No Jenn

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Framboise Du Nord – August Schell Brewery, New Ulm, MN

From: Jaded Zappa

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BA Rating: 4.09

Style: Berliner Weisse

ABV: 3.7%

  • Aaron: 9
  • Shea: 10
  • Steve: 5

This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Kinda fuck all… No new patrons will check for reviews… and Jenn isn’t here.

Also, there be show winds a’blowing … and I don’t mean Steve. No real teasers yet, but a question. If you could tell us to cover a topic, any topic at all regardless of subject, timeliness, or truthiness, what would it be?

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Whale, fuck!


Not quite the story of Jonah and the whale but at least this is true. South African dive tour operator Rainer Schimpf was nearly swallowed by a whale after he was mistakenly swept into its jaws during a sardine feeding frenzy last month. First, I want to take a second to admire Rainer’s last name… Schimpf… sounds like shrimp, maybe he has it coming. The 51-year-old was snorkeling near Port Elizabeth Harbour, on the eastern coast of South Africa, when a series of photos captured him being sucked headfirst into a Bryde’s whale’s mouth. These are moderately sized whales apparently but are still 45 feet long.

“There was no time for fear or any emotion,” he told The Telegraph. “I knew instantly what had happened. I knew that a whale had come and taken me and I instinctively held my breath, assuming that it would dive down again and spit me out somewhere in the depths of the Indian Ocean.”

Little Schimpfy was lucky, Bryde’s whales are known to dive for up to 15 minutes and up to 1000 feet deep, after being swallowed the whale released his jaws allowing him to escape. A passing photographer witnessed the scene from a nearby boat and immediately began snapping away, capturing everything but Schimpf’s legs vanishing inside the whale.

“Whales are no man-eaters,” witness Claudia Weber-Gebert told Barcroft Animals in an interview. “This was no attack. It was no fault of the whale. They are really sensitive, they are gentle giants, and it was just an accident.”

Or so you think Claudia… that’s how it all starts.

“It was an interesting experience for me but surely nothing I’d like to do again,” he told Barcroft Animals. “I don’t think I had a whale of a time, but I now have the inside knowledge of a whale which nobody else has.”

It Ain’t Easy Be’n No Cheesy

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As I’ve mentioned several times in the past, my daughter is a vegan or was anyway. As it turns out, it’s not an easy life choice to maintain. She, like many others, have moved away from veganism to vegetarianism. Her reasoning is pretty pure for a teenager. She was missing pizza and a having a wide variety of ice cream flavors, as well and feeling an outcast of sorts at gatherings. These reasons are as valid as any, after all, what you choose to eat is about as personal a choice as one can make.

A Psychology Today article from December helps break down why a large percentage of Veggie types end up returning to a more traditional diet, using information gathered by a Humane Research Council study. First, let’s mention that this study has a really big sample of over 11K representative US adults, so it should be providing a good representation of the eating habits of our country. Let’s start with just how much of the population are veggie types. The proportion of true vegetarians and vegans in the US is really pretty small and only around 2%, with a percent and a half vegetarians, and the remaining half a percent being vegans.

Unsurprisingly, to me at least, is that five or six of the veggie folks end up going back to a meaty diet, with (also unsurprisingly to me) the vegans being less likely revert, at 70% than the vegetarians, at 86%. Also, unsurprisingly, the majority of vegetarian/vegans are female and are more likely to be politically liberal (2:1).

The study also found that ex-vegetarian/vegans are generally older, more conservative and/or Christian than current leaf-eaters. This doesn’t surprise me at all either since this tracks with other generalities of those who are older in general, not just those who choose a particular diet.

What I did find somewhat surprising, given all of the talks about how it’s supposed to be a more healthy lifestyle, is that many people actually abandoned their vegan diets due to health problems related to the diet itself. Anecdotally, there have been several notable vegan YouTubers (always a fine exemplar of the best people, making the best choices) who have turned from a vegan diet due to a variety of health issues that eating meat and eggs have solved, much to the displeasure of their followers and limitations to their influencer incomes.

I’m honestly making no judgments here. Choosing to follow any non-traditional diet can’t be easy, regardless of the reasoning behind it. The desire to be “pure” is something I’ve encountered with especially vegans, but it’s a hard path to follow, and some I know do take breaks occasionally to enjoy more of the good things in life.

Drugged up Dinos


In an attempt to better understand how dinosaurs may have heard sounds scientists have given alligators earbuds. The experiment, described The Journal of Neuroscience, was designed to study the “neural maps” that carry information about soundwaves—that alligators generate to locate noises in their habitats. These maps are crucial in most vertebrates for prey location and awareness. The focus of the study was a concept called interaural time difference (ITD), which is the gap in the arrival time of a sound to each ear. This small gap allows animals to detect where the sound is coming from.

Catherine Carr, a biologist at the University of Maryland, and Lutz Kettler, a neuroscientist at the Technische Universität München, have spent years studying how ITD processes help animals like birds and reptiles locate noises. Because birds, alligators, and dinosaurs are all descendants, the new study provides clues about the auditory systems of dinosaurs by studying their extant cousins.

“Birds are dinosaurs and alligators are their closest living relatives,” Carr wrote in an email. “Features shared by both groups might reasonably be inferred to have been found in extinct dinosaurs so we assume dinosaurs could localize sound.”

So now that the science is out of the way to let’s hear exactly how they researched and tested their ideas… I warn you to strap in cause this is gonna be fun! The team injected 40 American alligators from Rockefeller Wildlife Refuge in Louisiana with ketamine and dexmedetomidine to sedate them, I’m wondering how many times they tried this without the drugs? While the animals were tripping balls, Yuin PK2 earbuds, fitted with horns, were placed in their earlids. Electrodes were positioned on the alligators’ heads to record the auditory neural responses to tones and click played through the headphones. Wait… What? Alligator rave party!!

The experiment revealed that alligators really like drugs and chilling out to some sweet tunes. I guess they also learned that they locate sounds using similar neural mapping systems to those of birds, despite the vast differences in their brain anatomies. This means that dinosaurs as large as Tyrannosaurus rex were likely using similar auditory mechanisms as birds and alligators to locate sounds. It also means that some crackpot scientist was able to get paid to drug up a shit ton of gators!

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No, Iraq doesn’t have a Star Gate and this isn’t something I should have to explain…


I love me some conspiracy theories… I mean the ones that don’t murder babies with a preventable illness that is. And this one’s a ‘beaut. Before we dive into the sweet, grey, meat of the issue we need to visit ancient Mesopotamia. See the Sumerians were actually a super advanced, society of stable-geniuses. Real fact.

They had the Freemasons in their pocket, Aliens on speed-dial, and there weren’t any Jews yet to mess it all up – after all, no good conspiracy is finished without a little anti-semitism.

The Sumerians worshiped the old gods, the Anunnaki. But, of course, these were not gods but aliens. Now, it’s important to note that no one, including nut-leader Zecharia Stichin, has called them Goa’uld, but that’s just because they don’t know the truth.

See, about 3000 years ago the Goa’uld gave the Sumerians a Star Gate. Now, before you start in on that “stargates aren’t real” talk, someone with a doctorate has important things to say. Dr. Michael Salla, who wrote about this in 2003 on a website that’s just… wow… says they believe the Mesopotamian, now Iraqi, Stargate is super cool and not at all like the TV show “”It’s kind of like an instantaneous space-time means of travel where people are instantaneously teleported from one area to another,” Oh, nope, that’s the TV show.

Apparently, the gate was found in Nasiriyah, which is about 400 km outside of Baghdad, in the ruins of ancient Ur – the city with the famous Ziggurat, which is, naturally, where the gate was kept. Unlike the shitty stargate, Hussein kept in his palace… you know… where they hid it from the Nazis. Yep.

A few decades later and Saddam started doing restoration on the Ziggurat, which worried the Illuminati because we all know something, something, something, the CIA wants the gate. “The Bush administration recognized that Hussein had some very, very valuable relevant information concerning the ancient history of the planet,” said Salla. “Either technology or texts basically confirming this and he was going to release this to the general public.” He expounds on this theory on his site “President Bush eloquently expressed his main motivation for launching a preemptive war against Iraq in order to prevent ‘a day of horror like none we have ever known.”” Of course, he didn’t mean 9/11, he meant the inevitable enslavement of all mankind at the hands of our alien, Illuminati, overlords. D’uh. “I think that was a big part of the reason why the Bush Administration went into Iraq, to stop Hussein from revealing this information and to also get control themselves.”

Now, we all know about the Appeal to Authority fallacy, so let’s put that to bed with the knowledge that, apparently, many whistleblowers have come forward that have corroborated the theory. “Essentially more and more people are coming forward saying that they have been involved in these classified programs where these technologies are used quite regularly and that they are found all over the planet, Iraq is just one place they’re found,” said Salla.

It seems there are also Stargates in Syria, which is why there’s a Syrian war. I guess Earth is a byfrost-style gate-hub. One presumes it’s run by the Cisco-Illuminati. Of course, we can’t talk about this as the reason for these wars because “Any congressman who wants to investigate this topic, if they take steps to actually investigate it, they are quietly approached and given the ol’ carrot and stick treatment and most congressmen accept the carrot and are basically promoted.” Promoted to what? We don’t know, super-Congress, I guess where they vote on key galactic legislation like the blathering, incoherent, kinda-racist, nonsense Gungans spout before dooming us all.

Fortunately for us, news of the gates and the alien invasion they assure are a mere two clicks away from InfoWars, all but guaranteeing that Trump will find out for himself that which apparently another president started a war for but subsequent presidents are entirely unaware of – because of reasons…

So there ya go, Stargate was a documentary. The Iraq war was a smokescreen for intergalactic influencers. And more people than ever, actually, really, for truezies, believe this shit.

Second Half

Let’s talk about getting dogs high.


I love a bit of woo, especially when it explains interstellar travel’s relationship to the Iraq war – patrons are in the know, are you?

But there’s been a steady tide of rising pot woo. As more and more states and countries legalize the market for pot, and sadly, pot-related woo is growing rapidly. I’m going to do a story at some point on CBD and chronic pain but frankly, that’s a full-episode. Instead, I’m going to narrow the focus some to the emerging market of animal-CBD.

You won’t have to look far to find dog biscuits with CBD. Or oils, foods, liquids to be mixed into water bowls, enemas, or eye drops for Fido. Most are designed to help your dog with his 1st-world puppy-problems like stiff joints, irritable personality traits, glaucoma, or nervousness… which totally isn’t because they know their owners are willing to chemically experiment on them.

So, what’s the big deal? First of all, regardless of its source, CBD doesn’t work on its own. It needs key additional chemicals to “activate” it’s questionable healing properties. This is why human products are often sold as 1-to-1 THC/CBD. Of course, THC is only legally allowed to be sold in a few places whereas CBD is unregulated by the FDA and generally ignored by other federal groups. Depending on manufacturing, source, or sales processes it lives in a nebulous legal place following a June 2018 FDA approval for CBD containing derivative designed to help epilepsy. Apparently, this works, but the key phrase there is “derivative.” Pet foods, treats, and “natural” cures are almost entirely unregulated and you’ll find various kinds of CBD for Chewy damn near everywhere.

But does it actually do anything? Spoiler alert, no. No, it doesn’t. Unless you want a dead dog, in which case, yes, it can do something.

The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals has reported a more than 700 percent increase in calls related to marijuana to its poison center in 2019. And while this isn’t conclusive, I think it helps to frame the discussion.

Marijuana – also known as Cannabis sativa – is comprised of somewhere between 66 and 113 different cannabinoid compounds. Of these, recreational use of marijuana is sought after for the psychotropic “high” produced by delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC. When made for humans we often jokingly refer to THC-treats as brownies. But we all know chocolate is bad for dogs… Also grapes, avocado, alcohol, coffee/caffeine, coconuts or their oil, macadamia nuts, xylitol (found in gum), and active-yeast dough. The more you know…

Crucially, the list also contains THC. Weed is known to be bad for dogs, causing marijuana toxicosis which can cause inactivity; incoordination; dilated pupils; increased sensitivity to motion, sound or touch; hypersalivation; and urinary incontinence. A veterinary exam can reveal depression of the central nervous system and an abnormally slow heart rate. Less common signs include restlessness, aggression, slow breathing, low blood pressure, an abnormally fast heart rate, and rapid, involuntary eye movements. In rare cases, animals can have seizures or become comatose.

Of course those last bits are dependant on quantity, but it doesn’t take much more to go into full on death. Because of this most pet “friendly” CBD products are made from Hemp. Another hippy-woo favorite. I’m not going to go into the value of help, I think it’s pretty well known for making durable clothing, fantastic ship-sails, tough rope, and desirable papers. It’s used for pet treats because, in addition to marketing benefits, it’s naturally low in THC so it can squeak in under most regulations. That said, help CBD is even less well studied that pot-CBD. The studies I read were to do with pot-THC, but some used help-CBD as controls.

From a study called “Pharmacokinetics of cannabidiol in dogs,” in Drug Metabolism and Disposition, by the American Society for Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics. They have 6 dogs between 16 and 24 kilos 45 or 90 mg of intravenous CBD and later 180mg of raw CBD orally. Then drew a ton of blood at regular intervals. In a nutshell, all of it was out of the dogs in 24 hours, with the largest drop seen in the first 360 minutes. Basically, uptake of CBD by cells was for shit at between 0.67 and 0.02 blood/plasma ratios. So if you gave the drugs to the dogs to prevent arthritic pain, you best be feeding them 180 mg every hour…

From a study called “Comparison of Acute Oral Toxicity of Cannabinoids in Rats, Dogs and Monkeys” published in Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology; they had a few hundred rats they gave CBD/THC 1.0ml/100g of body weight by dissolving it into sesame oil. They all died in a 10 to 36-hour timeline. For the dogs, they used a handful of Beagles. They were given their drugs orally at different levels. After 45 minutes of administration all the dogs were sick and the one who received the highest dose, 5g per kg by weight, died. They used 22 monkeys with more or less the same numbers, THC/CBD by weight. All became sick, one became hypothermic the same way half the rats did, none were prostrate. Apparently, it gave them Anorexia too. The animals that lived all showed signs of massive depression in about 10 days.

In, Possible Drug-drug Interaction in Dogs and Cats resulted from Alteration in drug metabolism: A mini-review published in the Cairo Journal of Advanced Research by Japanese veterinary scientists found that, among other things, giving your dogs pot-derived supplements would royally fuck the efficacy of any drugs they might already be on, to the point of almost certain fatality.

So, I think the takeaway here is, don’t give your dogs people food, or people drugs. While you shouldn’t take medical, legal, or veterinary advice from a podcast the science, while in its infancy, is pretty clear. THC especially, but yes, CBD, will kill your pets if you give them enough.

Closing things out with an anecdotal story, of the options you’ll find in stores you’re likely to see CBD pet supplements from Canna-Pet. They make cannabis-derived treats for cats and dogs, MaxCBD capsules, food, etc. In 2015 the FDA sent them a warning letter saying that they needed to stop making blatantly false and unverified claims like:

“We find medical benefits, behavioral benefits, prolonged life, reduced stress, and improved quality of life with our pets,” or We Recommend Canna-Pet™ as a daily food additive for all pets, but especially for those with arthritis, allergies, anxiety or behavior issues, compromised immune systems, diabetes, digestive issues, nausea, chronic pain, cancer, seizures, and those receiving palliative care,” or ““Antitumor, Antiepileptic, Anticancer, Anti-inflammatory, Bone stimulant, Analgesic, Anti-depressant, Antibacterial, Antipsoriatic, Antidiabetic, . . . Anti-nausea, Anti-anxiety, . . . Antipsychotic, . . . Immunosuppressive.” or finally, “For pets with extreme issues, who require larger doses of CBD. Most commonly these are pets suffering from seizures, although we often see pets with cancers and aggressive tumors, severe chronic pain, and in end-of-life care using our MaxCBD products.”

Because it’s all fucking bullshit anyway.

Next Week’s Beer

Goliath Imperial Stout – White Elm Brewing Company Lincoln, NE

Donated By: Brendon

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  • BA Rating: 4.13
  • Style: Imperial Stout
  • ABV: 12%

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